Discussion Question

Ok, there is this lady by the name Shirley Phelps Roper who is going to funerals pretty much saying "this is because of the wrath of God for all the evil we have allowed to happen in the USA" Now I dont agree with her method and I dont think she is doing a good job getting her message across. Actually it makes me mad that she is putting herself under the Christian title when her actions reflect nothing that is taught in the Bible from what I understand...but it did make me think "WHAT DO I BELIEVE ABOUT THE WRATH OF GOD?" and "HOW CAN GOD BE GRACIOUS AND WRATHFUL?"that is my question to all of you...

For me...I believe that we are created in the image of God, and so I take examples out of my own life assuming that to a certain degree I function or think at a fraction to what God might...aka a child to a parent sometimes understands the reasoning...Therefore, I know that Jay and I love eachother but yet at the same time we piss eachother off. Sometimes we have come to a point that we get so angry that we dont want the other person to do the thing to us again and we feel that we must teach the other person a lesson, if you will. Make the other person feel how we feel so maybe they will see how bad the action is, and stop. This is the wrath part, or the punishment, but at the same time, if we show remorse to the other person and ask for forgiveness, out of love we forgive and move on, sometimes knowing that the action may happen again. I think there is something about love though, that causes a person to want reconcilation MORE than vengence/punishment. In other words, I would much rather forgive Jay then hurt him. I think this is the same with God. I think that He is ready for forgive(the gracious side), but when we are not remorseful/sorry then I think He feels compelled to punish. (the wrathful side).  Then I think about the wrath of God in general, and I feel OK in saying that from what I understand from the Bible is that God will not be pouring out His wrath upon the Earth until AFTER the rapture (aka Jesus's second coming) otherwise, I'm sure that evil people "get theirs" but hey, bad stuff happens to good people also, so its hard to say if its the wrath of God or not...but I will assume not.

I guess the other issue that may arise here then is "WHAT MAKES GOD ANGRY?" but perhaps that can be addressed in another blog.

PLEASE TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK, EVEN IF YOU DONT BELIEVE IN A GOD...THANK-YOU!

Currently Listening Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness By Smashing Pumpkins beautiful see related

For Lucia

Beautiful, your beautiful, as beautiful as the sun

wonderful, your wonderful, as wonderful as they come

and I cant help but feel attached

to the feelings I cant even match

with my face pressed up to the glass , wanting you

Beautiful, your beautiful, as beautiful as the sky

wonderful, its wonderful, to know that you are just like I

and I'm sure that you know me well, as i'm sure you dont

but you just cant tell

who'll you'll love and who you wont

and I love you, as you love me

so let the clouds roll by your face

we'll let the world spin on to another place

we'll climb the tallest tree above it all

to look down on you and me and them

and I'm sure you know me well, as i'm sure you dont

but you just cant tell, who you'll love and who you wont

dont let the your life wrap up around you

dont forget to call, whenever

i'll be here just waiting for you

i'll be under your stars forever

neither here nor there just right beside you

i'll be under the stairs forever

neither here nor there just right beside you

by: Smashing Pumpkins

Nothing Much...

Currently Reading Flags of Our Fathers By James Bradley, Ron Powers see related

More Vacation?!

Hey everyone, Well I am in North Calolina visiting Jay's mom. Its been fun. I've been trying to keep busy but its kinda hard to do when you don't have a car and Jay's mom is still working so sometimes I am "Home Alone" (aaaahhhhh) naw, its not bad, more relaxing. Here is something to think about...self control. I smoke and drink wine every night (perhaps lack of self control) but yet I have the desire to go shopping at the wonderful stores down here, and I don't buy anything (amazing self control!) Interesting how the levels swich because normally its visa versa....or it could just be Jay's voice in my head saying, "You don't need anymore clothes!" and I'm actually listening! Yes! score ten points for me! But we shall see, I do have like 10 more days down here. Well enough rambling. Talk to you all soon!

Oh yah, our cell phones expire on July 27, you can reach me at my parents house...bye!

Vacation!!

Hey everyone...I'm going upnorth WI for vacation to do what every good human should know how to do...fish, four wheel, swim, Practice with the shot gun, fireworks/bon fires, and Relaxation! I'll talk to you all when I get back Sun! Enjoy your 4th of July!

Stay cool...marie

YAAHHH FOR INDEPENDENCE DAY!!

WHATEVER....I DO WHAT I WANT !